mrsronweasley: (remus)
mrsronweasley ([personal profile] mrsronweasley) wrote2002-09-05 11:08 am

Here be Rant.

Since when is it wrong to be bisexual?

And no, I don't mean that from a homophobic perspective - I mean that from a homosexual perspective. A friend of mine told me last night that the LGBT meetings on campus tend to be very much against bisexuals. You can be gay, straight or transgendered, but no, you can't be bisexual. Why? Because it is an insult to all homosexual people who have suffered for so long just because of who they love - so, why should someone have it easy and go both ways?

What I want to know is, why not?

Isn't it all about the fact that gender doesn't matter? At least, that's what I always thought! Apparently, not.

How is it ok to descriminate like that? How is it ok to completely ignore a sex? How is it ok to be prejudiced when you have felt how it feels in your own skin?

We're all a part of this earth. If someone is gay, then so be it - if he isn't interested in women as sexual beings at all, that is fine. But it's not fine to completely disregard a gender. Same goes for lesbians. Men and women are simply two sides of the same coin - and no matter what, we can't discount one another. We're all people. That's what it all comes down to.

At least in my mind...

::growls::

[identity profile] thieving-gypsy.livejournal.com 2002-09-05 08:37 am (UTC)(link)
I hate attitudes like that. Grr. I don't get it from a homosexual POV 'cos most of the gay people I know are THE coolest friends anyone could ever ask for, but from a homophobic POV. Like my parents adamantly keep telling themselves that I've stuck half-naked pictures of Angelina Jolie all over my folders because I admire her prowess as an actress.

"Bisexuals are just greedy," I tend to get. Grrrr.

[identity profile] soupytwist.livejournal.com 2002-09-05 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
*cheers*

The whole "there's no such thing as bisexual" thing bugs the crap out of me. Sheesh. I really didn't think it was that tough to understand that for some people, gender simply isn't a factor in who they find attractive.

[identity profile] mapletide.livejournal.com 2002-09-05 10:59 am (UTC)(link)
To say that I hate that attitude is a touch of an understatement.

However, I've gotten it a lot. I've seen where they view that bisexuals are such because they "can't make up their mind which way they swing", or that there's no true bisexual, and various other things. It really pisses me off, because I can't see where it matters. It doesn't matter. I mean, it's all about who you love, right? It's about the person, not the gender. Why should the gender even matter?

Oy, when I start sounding like one of my Sirius incarnations, it's time to stop. :)

Sending hugs and much luck.

~MT

[identity profile] sekhmet2.livejournal.com 2002-09-05 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
That's really one of the silliest things that I have ever heard. A person should be able to love whomever they want, whatever gender they or their intended might be, without fear of reprisal. As I've said many times before, true love is a precious gift that I think surprisingly few people get to experience--it shouldn't matter if it's heterosexual or homosexual.

Frankly, I think that most people, if they could scrape away all of the prejudices and fears and ingrained ideas from their minds, would find that they *are* bisexual. It's just that we're all taught that it's wrong to find a person of the same sex attractive in a sexual manner. Society tells you that you shouldn't feel that way, so you bury the feelings and pretend they aren't there. Perhaps the people in the meeting on campus feel the same way, but in the reverse. They have come out as homosexuals and don't want anyone to think that they might possibly find someone of the opposite sex attractive. Maybe they think that the homosexual community will alienate them the way that much of society as a whole alienates homosexuals.

It's all a big waste of time if you ask me. There are too many wonderful people out there in the world to automatically write off half the population just because they are the 'wrong' sex. Fall in love with the person, not the gender.

I'm sure that made no sense whatsoever...... >_

Re: ::growls::

[identity profile] mrsronweasley.livejournal.com 2002-09-06 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
oh, yes, she's an excellent actress. *G* She is hot, though, isn't she?

Greedy? No. More like, open to possibilities. ;)

[identity profile] mrsronweasley.livejournal.com 2002-09-06 08:02 am (UTC)(link)
EXACTLY! *hear, hear!* :)

[identity profile] mrsronweasley.livejournal.com 2002-09-06 08:03 am (UTC)(link)
In the honor of you and your Sirius, here's this icon. :)

It really is about the person, not the gender. And that's the way it should be.

Sending many hugs back! :)

[identity profile] mrsronweasley.livejournal.com 2002-09-06 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
It actually made perfect sense. :) I tend to agree with you on that everyone, matters of repression aside, is bisexual to a certain extent. I mean, obviously, there are exceptions, but really - when you strip all the stigmas and dogmas and all the other "gmas", you'll find there's a lot underneath that hasn't been spoken of, perhaps ever. And it really is silly, isn't it? All that repression and pressure and whatnot... *sigh*

::hugs::

Re:

[identity profile] sekhmet2.livejournal.com 2002-09-06 10:35 am (UTC)(link)
Big 'ole waste a time, ain't it?!? ::sigh:: But, I guess we'll never truly get away from all of the repression and prejudice and "gma's", which is a really, really sad thing.

::hugs:: Off to Des Moines! Wish me luck and we shall hope Miss Arwen behaves herself this weekend. :-O

(Anonymous) 2002-09-07 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
I think that there are a few reasons behind the GLBT dislike of the B. the first is that, well, bisexuality is sort of trendy right now. (not that queer isn't trendy as hell, but it's still different to them). Now, as far as I'm concerned the trend toward bisexuality is the most natural thing in the world. I believe in the continuum theory. everyone is bi to one degree or another. where I am far closer to the middle of the continuum than my father (I think) or my rage-at-the-world-super-Dyke best friend we are all still to some degree in the same ball park. and where I think that some people feel a certain societal pressure toward being bi, at least they are now responding to a pressure that encourages them to a more natural state. unlike the pressure toward heterosexuality, which is still and will always be a huge thing for anyone to overcome. I think, though, that the trend toward it, the thought, especially among the young (thinking of a 16 year old cousin of mine) that bi is cool, just pisses the queers off.



another thing that will always, I fear, separate bi people from the gay community is that we are more accepted in the mainstream. some queers see us as the hedonist that have just ridden on the coat tails of their fight for acceptance. that is really unfair but the persecution that they have gone through has made some of them a little shall we say bitter. and that Bi's are not generally the most vocal fighters for gay rights, even though they are likely the most numerous, does give other people room to criticize. but you would think they would have learned by now that criticism should be of individuals not a generalization.


to a certain extent being queer is a huge part of a person's identity. it becomes one of the ways they primarily view and define themselves. I think is different with bisexuals. I think we, for the most part, give less weight to it within our self concept. To some people that comes off looking like it is unimportant to us. and really it should be. it should be unimportant to everyone. but society doesn't seem to work that way.



okay this makes no sense.

so I'll leave and go fill out the survey above :)


XO,
Jadis