oh, also also, if it helps you with the J/T thing? I've read - in a bunch of places - stuff about Joe pretty much asking/begging/being allowed a 'get out of romantic subplots' thing so I seriously, seriously doubt they'd go there. Joke about it, sure, have other people make comments, seems like, but have it actually happen? Seriously doubt it. And I really do think they see each other as siblings and that's not just the slash eyeballs talking.