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mrsronweasley ([personal profile] mrsronweasley) wrote2003-07-28 01:21 am

QAF - The American Version.

I planned this rant a while ago, when [livejournal.com profile] aneli8 and I watched it, but never got around to it, and now that I have time and a day off tomorrow - WOOHOO! SLEEP! - I thought I'd throw in my two cents.



I don't want to upset people that love this show, but I just had to say it...

First, here is what I have been able to gather in terms of comparing the two:

Brian = Stuart
Justin = Nathan, if you squint reaaaaaaally hard
Mikey = Vince
Mikey's Mom = Hazel (doi)
Uncle = oh God, what's his name...mustasche dude, really funny...
Lesbians = Lesbians
Brian's kid = Stuart's kid
Justin's mom = Nathan's mom (sorta)
Emmet = Alexander

Ok. So far so good. Except, Brian, hot as he may have been, continuously made faces like he was in the process of relieving his bladder and failing. He was the 'broody' one, except without the brains that Stuart was so well endowed with. Stuart was actually charming. That's why everybody loved him, even when they hated him. He was completely irresistible, even when being a total prick. He had depth, he had character, hell, he was Irish. He was Stuart Alan Jones, and he was fucking cool. Brian is just...there. He broods. He's the tainted hero. Blah blah blah, ok... I don't know. He just didn't do it for me. Broody characters tend to have quite good brain cells behind their demeanor, a la Darcy. He just…doesn’t do anything BUT brood. We’re supposed to think he’s constantly thinking and angsting, but his further actions suggest otherwise to me.

Mikey. Was adorable. He's a geek and I love him for it. And hey, good for him, he got laid within 24 hours of getting into town. Vince hadn't got any for six months, my baby. So, Mikey we like.

Emmet. Emmet was cute, funny, and funnily enough, actually had character. He didn’t have to work too hard, and he came off great, exactly as he should have been. And, amazingly enough, he seemed to have had more depth than Brian.

Mikey’s mom. She needed to be shot. She was so annoying!! She was supposed to have been ‘the cool mom’, the kind we all wish we had, but you know what? I just wanted to kick her. She had absolutely none of the charisma that Hazel did, and she wasn’t nearly as much fun. Hazel was amazing – caring, smart, witty, fun, a total faghag and you know what? She was hot, too. (She was!) She was cool. Mikey’s mom (I’m sorry, I just don’t remember her name) is simply…annoying. She chews her bubblegum in the way I hate and want to strange for, she tries to be cool, but comes off too serious (if that makes any sense) and she just…she’s a cause, not a mother.
That’s the thing – the characters are there not as characters, but causes. They each have a cause, not a life. They’re cardboard characters, each with his/her own cause and nothing else to make them loveable or real. They’re hopelessly one-dimensional, and they don’t feel real to me. The actors feel like actors, not real people.

The British QAF breathed life. It lived. They were real problems, they lived their lives, they were real. And, this is so important, even at its most serious, the show never took itself too seriously. This one does, and that its biggest failing. It’s a cause, not a show, and while that cause is worthwhile, it isn’t that interesting to watch, and it certainly doesn’t justify the sucky acting, dialogue or the convoluted soap-opera plot.

And they’re missing LoveablePrick!Nathan. That’s sad. He’s fucking Mozart!! Gotta love him.

Wow, I realize this is harsh, but I was just so…disappointed. I’m glad they tried, but I wish they’d done it differently. It just…well, it sucks.


And today was bad until two things happened:

1) I met one of the producers of "Law & Order". (He did the first 4 years.) He'd written my favorite episode ever. I got to shake his hand, and he told me I had made his night. It was fucking brilliant. (He came into the store, and he wore a L&O t-shirt, which is how we started talking...)

"Oh, you're a fan?"
"Yeah, I love it!"
"I worked on it for four years, actually."
"REALLY?!" (I'm thinking: camera-man? He looks all dishevelled and whatnot, could be on the crew...)
"Yeah, I wrote and produced it."
"..."

2) I was going home, and just sat down on the train and was about to continue reading my book, when, from two seats down, someone turns to me and asks: "Excuse me, it's Liz, isn't it?"

Guess who! You guessed it. The change-dropping boy. I laughed. We talked and he's very funny and nice, and we had fun, and he gave me his email address in the end. I think I'll email him. I'll tell him that I am very much spoken for, and I hope that he still wants to hang out, because he's nice and fun and seems pretty normal (he promised me he wasn't stalking me...) And I told Sam, anyway. And I KNOW that nothing will happen, because I don't want it to. So, yeah.

I was amused. Anyone else amused? I laughed all the way home. My mom laughed with me.

And I finally found where all the At Swims are. They're on a table, in fact, with the new paperback fiction books. Now I know where to point people. This is most excellent.

Boy, am I in need of a day off. But it's still good, even when it sucks. Because, at the end of the day, I walk out and feel like I've accomplished something, and that feels damn good after all.

But, oh, how I needed to talk to you today! I need your shoulder to weep on, I feel so lost! Alexander, how could you! Tell me a time and I WILL call. Because this is just so wrong. So, so wrong.

And I owe emails, which I will answer tomorrow, like a good girl. Why?

Because I have a day off! Woohoo!
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[identity profile] mrsronweasley.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
You are too funny. I miss you! :( I was online yesterday, but not for too long, so I must have missed you... again... *sigh*

I'll email you back today, though, ok?

I love you very much, too. 40 kisses, huh? I feel damn special. ;) *40 kisses back*

[identity profile] airinshaw.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Amen the the Bristish/US QAF analysis. The Uk one rocks my socks *squees again much in the fashion of how she and Liz did while watching it*

And yay for L&O guy! Stuff like that rocks. If it goes anything like JON you'll be eating dinner with him soon. Heh

And as for change-dropping guy...coincidence? I think not...

*hugs* Love you pet. xx

[identity profile] mrsronweasley.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
HAVE YOU WATCHED THE SECOND SERIES YET?!?! Get to it, woman!!

Stuff like that DOES rock, and I somehow don't think he'll be back, but that's ok. :)

Coincidence! It is a coincidence! I refuse to be stalked! I simply won't have it!

*hugs back* I love you, too. I miss you.

[identity profile] airinshaw.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 11:11 am (UTC)(link)
It would have to be a determined person indeed to stalk The Liz. Though I could understand it. I'd be stalking you if you were still in the UK *nods sagely*

I'm enjoying the way a certain someone is looking at me at work. I don't have to act on it, and I have Sarah, but hey...it nice to be noticed...

[identity profile] mombi-of-oz.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe I'm biased... but I like the American version so much better! I mean, have you watched all the episodes of the American version? Because that first season they're really still taking everything from the British version.

And Michael's mom, well... she's not really supposed to be lovable, or I never thought so. I mean, in so many episodes, you wanna kick her fucking ass. She's horrible...

And, as much as I do love Brian, I will admit Stuart is a better that charecter... and he's Irish. *sigh* But, really, I think Brian gets better... I dunno. Maybe it's cause I saw the American version first though. *sigh*

Also, there weren’t enough episodes of the British version, and the boys are fantastically hotter in the American one. I know that's superficial of me, but what can I say? :D Heh, alright, I'll shut up.

XOxoXO
Dee

[identity profile] mombi-of-oz.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
PS -- That one guy... sooooo stalking you. :P

[identity profile] mrsronweasley.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, and yeah -

BAH!

Heh.

[identity profile] mrsronweasley.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I haven't watched all of it, but that's mostly because I couldn't. I'm biased, too, of course. ;) I LOVE the British version, it will forever remain The One for me. But let's see...

And Michael's mom, well... she's not really supposed to be lovable

Really? Ok, that makes more sense, because she seemed like she was modeled after Hazel, and Everybody Loves Hazel, but if that's the case, I'm glad, because she is annoying as all hell (AND she's a bad actress).

Does he Brian get better? That would be nice, because he simply pissed me off. Stuart pissed me off, but I still couldn't help loving him.

It's also that I didn't like the dialogue too much...

And you really think the boys are hotter in the US version? We have different tastes, then. ;) Mmm, Stuart... Mmmm, Nathan... Mmm...everybody...

Heh.

[identity profile] mombi-of-oz.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the charecters in the US one are based off the Brit one, but not supposed to be exactly them, ya know? Like Michael's mom, well... She's kinda like Hazel, but more annoying. I dunno...

And, see Nathan and Stuart ARE hot, but I mean like the other random charecters. Like the boys that Brian pulls are hotter than the ones that Stuart pulls, or er... something. I dunno! Heh.

Whatever, any show with hot gay boys is-- in my book-- a great show. :D

XOxoXO
Dee

[identity profile] stereo-m.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, I need to run and was only going to quickly check my friends page, but now I'm not sure I'll be able to run 'cause I'm LAUGHING SO HARD.

AAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH! PRICELESS! :D

So, yeah. Bye! ;)

[identity profile] mrsronweasley.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
Don't get a stitch in your side! Heh. Hope the running went well, and I'm glad you can laugh at me. *nods*

:-P

mwah!

[identity profile] aneli8.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Liz has an admirer :D That's absolutely priceless though! I hope he does just want to hang out. Should make for some laughs :)

::Hugs:: What did Alexander just do, dear?

[identity profile] mrsronweasley.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
Liz has an admirer

:P

Well, it isn't what he JUST did, it's just the fact that he's...not with Hephaestion, and for me, that really hurts. More than I realized. Maybe that's PMS talking, I don't know, but even though I knew where it was all going, and I did like Bagoas, but Hephaestion is just... he's just... argh. It upset me more than it should have, but I couldn't stop thinking about it during work and getting even more depressed. Alli told me to keep reading, and promised me it'd be better. But just... *sigh*

BTW, what are your plans for today?

[identity profile] aneli8.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
Oh darling ::hugs:: But the fact is that he still loves Hephaistion. And the entire book is from Bagoas' point of view, so it obviously centers more on his relationship with Alexander than Alexander and Hephaistion's. It is depressing, in it's own way, but don't let it upset you ::loves::

My plans? Get out of class. Other than that- open to anything :)

[identity profile] soupytwist.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
OMG he's called MIKEY! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

*faints*

*realises this seems completely insane to anyone who's not read 'Making History' by Stephen Fry, so wakes self up*

Um, yeah. Heeeeee, though. :D

I loved your analysis - damn right he's Mozart! he's fucking MOZART! - and find change-dropping dude most amusing. And man, you met the dude who did Law and Order! (I've never seen it myself, but I know I'd be screeching if I met the person who wrote/produced any of my favourite shows :))

And hey, guess what? You have a day off! And I love you! :D

[identity profile] mayatawi.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
Totally agree with you on the QAF. I was trying to figure out why I so preferred the UK version to the US one (Irish hotness notwithstanding), and I came up with: the UK one is quintessentially British, whereas the US one is quintessentially American. In that everything seems scripted and planned and a little too over-the-top, and sure, it is scripted and planned but it's not supposed to feel that way. The US version suffers from sitcom timing and writing (Hmm, how do we establish that Ted is predictable? I know! Make him order the same boring sandwich every day!)-- all it needs is a laugh track. And then there's Stuart/Brian, where Stuart was--yes--loveable, even when being a prick, and Brian's just too "Oh, I'm above all this, I look down upon you all" untouchable to come off as real. He's like the Stereotypical Popular Bitch, and I just don't believe him and Michael as friends, much less best friends.

Well, anyway. Rant off.

[identity profile] percy-weatherby.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
Rich watched it before, and had about the same reaction you did, although he was rather fond of Emmett

However, Fu, Jahdi and I still plan on watching it, if only for virtue of pointing out Pittsburghian Landmarks ;). ("Oh, I ate there once!", "It's Point Park! Do you suppose we'll get to see somebody go to jail for cruising?")

[identity profile] simster.livejournal.com 2003-07-28 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
I don't watch the show, but I hear the show has totally been relegated to softcore gay porn at this point. One of my friends who does follow the show said the storylines have become so far-fetched and the characters so uninteresting that she stopped watching it a long time ago. Doesn't sound too promising. Then again, she was also a huge fan of the UK version.