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mrsronweasley) wrote2003-05-12 09:53 pm
mrsronweasley) wrote2003-05-12 09:53 pm
On many slashy things.
I apologize for the slight hostile takeover of my journal early this morning. I don't know what happened exactly, but a very large man is lying next to me right now, passed out cold, with a needle and thread in his hands, frozen while attempting to sew something that I would rather not think about it. He also had the nerve to call me "Mary-Lou" and his "little wife". The nail on my boot came in handy. *cracks knuckles*
In other news, people need to learn the concept of personal space. Get away from me, you freak.
In more news, I need to do my work, dammitalltohell, why can't I be as happy as![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
arborealis? Oh, that's right. Because he's DONE with all this work, and I am not. But if you haven't seen this post, do yourself a favor and go see it, because it is a thing of beauty. I think the amount of laughter that it generated from me has increased my life by about a year. Thanks, babe. ;)
In OTHER news, here are some slashy thoughts...
So, in between writing essays, and also while lying in bed half delirious with the flu, I’ve been reading Arthur Conan Doyle (Doyle, how cool is that?). And besides the giddiness at the coolness of it all, I have also been contemplating the supposed slashiness of it. It’s piqued my interest, let’s say.
Here’s what I’ve thought up so far. While I can definitely see the vibes, I am also having a very difficult time seeing them actually together, breakfast in bed and all. I think Watson has this sort of...clueless infatuation with Holmes, no doubt about it. For one, he’s in comlete awe of the man - and that does not suggest infatuation on its own, obviously - I’m in awe of a lot of people, doesn’t mean I’m in love with them. He also cares for him greatly, that much is obvious, as well. So what? Friends care for one another, right? Except, Holmes is such a character that not everybody, by far, would care for him - he’s too closed off, he’s too...not like other people. (Well, personally, I’m practically in love with the man, but you know what I mean.) And, finally, Watson just...notices these little things. He always points out that Holmes sat with his thin legs pointing towards the fire, or that he was smiling that smile peculiar to him, or had the glint in his eyes that only he could have. He knows his habits, through and through. He studies him like a hawk. That sort of study goes a bit beyond friendship, and carries over into the “infatuation” category, at least to me. He’s just a bit obsessed with him, but in a nice way.
And as for Holmes... While being one of the sexiest and coolest characters ever written in literature, he also strikes me as completely asexual. Sex just seems much too irrational for him. He’s used to having a goal of some kind - sex doesn’t lead to much. It’s messy - and not the sort of mess that he would have fun playing in, I don’t think, because it doesn’t lead to a discovery; you kind of know where the mess came from. He could be interested in sex for a short little while, sort of like uncovering a mystery: “Oh, I wonder what will happen if I nibble on this nipple... Oh, look, it leads to the vocal cords- a moan! What about the navel here, what will happen then?” But after he’s discovered it all... On the other hand. There’s his cocaine habit. That isn’t exactly rational, and very much about the senses. But doesn’t he think while high? He goes into a trance and just loses himself in his mind for a bit, right? So, I’m sort of ambivilant about that... I'm probably not probing deeply enough into this. Not yet, anyway. Hmmm.
I can see them in love. I really, truly can. The sort of “in love” that Sam and Frodo have - the closeness, the deep, all-encompassing caring. After all, Holmes does love Watson - it’s obvious he cares for him a whole lot, in his own Holmesian way. He always makes him stay for cases, even after Watson moves out, and they spend a heck of a lot of time together. (Hey John, don’t you have a wife somewhere, hmmm?)
What I can’t see, though, is the sex life. For me, it just all fades to black. I don’t know why. Maybe because I see Watson as even more asexual than Holmes, for reasons I can’t even comprehend. However, yes, the slashy vibes are so very lovely in this. And I’ve been reading some fanfic, though the sex scenes that I’ve read so far have just...made me laugh. They just don’t ring true to me. It would take a hell of a writer to convince me that that’s Holmes and Watson there, naked in bed together. I’ve liked the fanfic very much up until that point, however. I suppose the way I view their relationship is like a constant UST. There’s no resolution. But boy, is there tension galore.
However, I would love to read a story where they're both in character AND believably in love and in lust. (That's a hint. Bwaha.)
And just reading the book in general is making me happy. I love the whole world of it, and it's so easy to just get really cozy inside it and not want to leave...especially when the cruel, cold world of essay writing is waiting on the other side. *sigh*
But look - new icon! Ten points to those who can guess where the quote is from. Personally, it makes me very happy. I have to give credit where credit's due - it wassnoopypez's idea to make a Hermione icon with this quote. Go Jaime. :)
And that's it. My life is, at the moment, not exciting at all. But come next Friday and... oh, that's right. I'll have an exam to worry about. Bah! I'm taking next Saturday off. I will do NOTHING. And not feel a bit guilty. Oh, I can't wait...
In other news, people need to learn the concept of personal space. Get away from me, you freak.
In more news, I need to do my work, dammitalltohell, why can't I be as happy as
arborealis? Oh, that's right. Because he's DONE with all this work, and I am not. But if you haven't seen this post, do yourself a favor and go see it, because it is a thing of beauty. I think the amount of laughter that it generated from me has increased my life by about a year. Thanks, babe. ;)In OTHER news, here are some slashy thoughts...
So, in between writing essays, and also while lying in bed half delirious with the flu, I’ve been reading Arthur Conan Doyle (Doyle, how cool is that?). And besides the giddiness at the coolness of it all, I have also been contemplating the supposed slashiness of it. It’s piqued my interest, let’s say.
Here’s what I’ve thought up so far. While I can definitely see the vibes, I am also having a very difficult time seeing them actually together, breakfast in bed and all. I think Watson has this sort of...clueless infatuation with Holmes, no doubt about it. For one, he’s in comlete awe of the man - and that does not suggest infatuation on its own, obviously - I’m in awe of a lot of people, doesn’t mean I’m in love with them. He also cares for him greatly, that much is obvious, as well. So what? Friends care for one another, right? Except, Holmes is such a character that not everybody, by far, would care for him - he’s too closed off, he’s too...not like other people. (Well, personally, I’m practically in love with the man, but you know what I mean.) And, finally, Watson just...notices these little things. He always points out that Holmes sat with his thin legs pointing towards the fire, or that he was smiling that smile peculiar to him, or had the glint in his eyes that only he could have. He knows his habits, through and through. He studies him like a hawk. That sort of study goes a bit beyond friendship, and carries over into the “infatuation” category, at least to me. He’s just a bit obsessed with him, but in a nice way.
And as for Holmes... While being one of the sexiest and coolest characters ever written in literature, he also strikes me as completely asexual. Sex just seems much too irrational for him. He’s used to having a goal of some kind - sex doesn’t lead to much. It’s messy - and not the sort of mess that he would have fun playing in, I don’t think, because it doesn’t lead to a discovery; you kind of know where the mess came from. He could be interested in sex for a short little while, sort of like uncovering a mystery: “Oh, I wonder what will happen if I nibble on this nipple... Oh, look, it leads to the vocal cords- a moan! What about the navel here, what will happen then?” But after he’s discovered it all... On the other hand. There’s his cocaine habit. That isn’t exactly rational, and very much about the senses. But doesn’t he think while high? He goes into a trance and just loses himself in his mind for a bit, right? So, I’m sort of ambivilant about that... I'm probably not probing deeply enough into this. Not yet, anyway. Hmmm.
I can see them in love. I really, truly can. The sort of “in love” that Sam and Frodo have - the closeness, the deep, all-encompassing caring. After all, Holmes does love Watson - it’s obvious he cares for him a whole lot, in his own Holmesian way. He always makes him stay for cases, even after Watson moves out, and they spend a heck of a lot of time together. (Hey John, don’t you have a wife somewhere, hmmm?)
What I can’t see, though, is the sex life. For me, it just all fades to black. I don’t know why. Maybe because I see Watson as even more asexual than Holmes, for reasons I can’t even comprehend. However, yes, the slashy vibes are so very lovely in this. And I’ve been reading some fanfic, though the sex scenes that I’ve read so far have just...made me laugh. They just don’t ring true to me. It would take a hell of a writer to convince me that that’s Holmes and Watson there, naked in bed together. I’ve liked the fanfic very much up until that point, however. I suppose the way I view their relationship is like a constant UST. There’s no resolution. But boy, is there tension galore.
However, I would love to read a story where they're both in character AND believably in love and in lust. (That's a hint. Bwaha.)
And just reading the book in general is making me happy. I love the whole world of it, and it's so easy to just get really cozy inside it and not want to leave...especially when the cruel, cold world of essay writing is waiting on the other side. *sigh*
But look - new icon! Ten points to those who can guess where the quote is from. Personally, it makes me very happy. I have to give credit where credit's due - it was
snoopypez's idea to make a Hermione icon with this quote. Go Jaime. :)And that's it. My life is, at the moment, not exciting at all. But come next Friday and... oh, that's right. I'll have an exam to worry about. Bah! I'm taking next Saturday off. I will do NOTHING. And not feel a bit guilty. Oh, I can't wait...
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I can't remember who Cooper and Truman were, though, and you'll probably kill me for that. They're probably the main characters, right? Heh.
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...but I've always been more of an Audrey girl myself.
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Off to beeeeeeeed...
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OW. My SOUL!!!
Billy Zane does not exist in my world. We just kind of pretend he's not there. Wait, it's not pretending, since BILLY ZANE DOES NOT EXIST. Fucking Billy Zane. It's a good thing he doesn't exist.
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Ok, a bit far fetched, probably, but I haven't read this book...yet, at least.
And I'm glad to know you managed to get rid of the old Alabama 300 pounds guy. :P
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Nope. Heh. (For once!)
And yeah, he didn't give me too much trouble - he may be bigger than me, but I know how to kick well. Hehe.
Miss! Miss! Ask me!
You there, in the back of the class, what was your name again?
Ha, was there ever a doubt? Hehe. You get extra points for cool trivia! Whoever carved that line is very cool. It makes me feel powerful reading it. In fact, I'm flexing my muscles even as I type. (It would have worked better if I hadn't just typed "flaxing". Hmmm.)
I win!
http://www.ravenland.com/fiction.htm/SDIN.html
Excellent H/W slash, though if you're looking for more,
Re: I win!
Want to be a scout for the Howl Kingdom? I'm just so lazy... hehe.
Thank you!
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That is just what I think of Holmes/Watson. They're *extremely* Sam/Frodo - I can see them in love, but the whole them-having-sex thing is just a bit harder to imagine, lol. (Heh, harder. Ohhhh dear.) But stuff like "I swear, if you've killed Watson you shan't leave this room alive!"... eeeeee.
And I love you to 87 fridges worth and more, and wish you all the luck in the world with your evil, evil work type crap. Here's to it being over.
*MWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH*
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You agree with me on something?! No! Seriously?! How did THAT happen?!
Hehe. Oh, I need to read moremoremooooooore... but I'm taking it slowly. I need to do WORK, is what I need to do, adn don't be surprised if I come begging you to help keep me sane tomorrow, love. That's a warning. I'm planning on pulling my all-day-in-front-of-the-computer stunt tomorrow. It'll be a long...long day...
Love you, too. In case ya couldn't tell. ;)
*MWAH*
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I've read a few good H/W stories; you're right that the best ones are set up for UST.
And good luck with all your end-of-term work.
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Whoohoo, now it's playing in my head. Excellent. You get extra points, as well. (I'm generous, aren't I? Roche still wins, though, I suppose.)
I've read a few good H/W stories; you're right that the best ones are set up for UST.
Point me! I was trying to read one where Watson seduces a sick Holmes...and I laughed and left. Just - didn't - do it. Although, the one Roche recced up above was fantastic. Wow. The UST - goodness, Telanu's stuff is excellent for that. Just...so very well done.
And...thank you. Had a bit of a breakdown today. We're working on it. Wah.
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As usual, Roche is the one who pointed out the decent H/W to me. So all I can say is to follow her lead.
Sherlock Holmes!
There is NO DOUBT that Holmes and Watson care for each other VERY much. This is clear in many of the stories. However, I can't see them being in love.
Except, Holmes is such a character that not everybody, by far, would care for him - he’s too closed off, he’s too...not like other people.
That's one of the main reasons why I could never see Holmes/Watson working. Holmes is one of THE coolest characters in literature, but he is SO in his own little world. I think Watson would need more...emotional support (not the word I'm looking for, but ah well) than Holmes can offer.
He could be interested in sex for a short little while, sort of like uncovering a mystery: “Oh, I wonder what will happen if I nibble on this nipple... Oh, look, it leads to the vocal cords- a moan! What about the navel here, what will happen then?”
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Yes. That is SO Holmes ;D
There is only ONE story where it is even slightly hinted at that Holmes has romantic feelings for a person ('A Scandal in Bohemia'). Yet even in that story, Watson notes, "It was not that
he felt any emotion akin to love for Irene Adler. All emotions,
and that one particularly, were abhorrent to his cold, precise but
admirably balanced mind. He was, I take it, the most perfect
reasoning and observing machine that the world has seen, but as
a lover he would have placed himself in a false position." Holmes, frankly, just isn't CAPABLE of being in love. And I don't think it upsets him one bit.
On the other hand. There’s his cocaine habit. That isn’t exactly rational, and very much about the senses. But doesn’t he think while high? He goes into a trance and just loses himself in his mind for a bit, right?
Exactly. The cocaine seems to free Holmes of ALL distractions. He seems to use it for only his most difficult cases (although in later stories as his addiction grows worse he does use it more often). It allows him to really THINK. For him, I think the cocaine has very little to do with the senses.
The sort of “in love” that Sam and Frodo have
See, I personally see more possibility between Sam/Frodo than Holmes/Watson. Sam and Frodo both need each other emotionally. Like I said before, I don't think Holmes could fill Watson's emotional needs.
(Hey John, don’t you have a wife somewhere, hmmm?)
No kidding. That always seemed rather tacked on to me.
However, I would love to read a story where they're both in character AND believably in love and in lust.
If you ever find one, do let me know. I would love to see that accomplished :)
Wow. Sorry. I kind of got going there...
Re: Sherlock Holmes!
*points above* Follow the link Rochefort gave. Spectacular stuff. Seriously. Go look.
I agree with you on some points. I suppose the only way I can see Holmes as a sexual creature is if it's presented like the author on the story I just pointed you towards presented him. That's sort of the way I imagined it happening, if it happened at all. I think Holmes is capable of love - he just...doesn't need it, most of the time. (He is a terrific character, though, isn't he? I love that man.)
I think Watson would need more...emotional support (not the word I'm looking for, but ah well) than Holmes can offer.
Yes, I can see that. Holmes wouldn't be the best partner to have, that's for sure - BUT, if he were in love, I think it'd be different. I mean...already, they sort of...do take care of each other, in different ways. I think we just don't really know enough to support any theory (except for the whole Watson married someone thing, but honestly, does he EVER spend time with that woman?! Heheh...)
Anyway, I do highly recommend that story. Spectacularly written. Just...practically flawless. Have fun! ;)
Re: Sherlock Holmes!
(except for the whole Watson married someone thing, but honestly, does he EVER spend time with that woman?! Heheh...)
I don't think he ever did ;) Actually, I think there were two Mrs. Watsons. Didn't the first one die or something?