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mrsronweasley ([personal profile] mrsronweasley) wrote2007-01-16 07:06 pm

SGA, 3x17, "Sunday": an addendum.


1) I think what shocked me the most about John's comment (you know that of which I speak) was the fact that, um, HE ACTUALLY SAID THAT. And what's amazing about THAT is the fact that I was honestly expecting the SGA writers to go the way of everybody else in this TV world and not acknowledge either that

a) homosexuality/bisexuality exists as a part of this world at ALL, and

b) that it might even exist on their show.

'Cause, let's face it: this isn't quite England. We're not quite there yet.

Like...it's hard to explain, but basically, whenever I watch a TV show and look at all the relationships shown, all I can think is that not all the major food groups are represented. Yes, there are exceptions - but they are there mostly from the start. (And I am not talking about Joss Whedon, for he is Special Like Turnbull and we love him dearly.) I can only think of a handful, honestly, including the GOD AWFUL "Sherman's March" that never actually aired (oh, Joe).

So, like, I don't know! I was surprised. Maybe I underestimate people. Who knows.

Also? John is military. He is damn lucky Ronon's not from Earth. JUST SAYIN'.

2) Was he married? Did we... oh my God... did we get Sheppard BACK STORY? Well, no crap! Huh.

And I'm pretty sure that [livejournal.com profile] katrin summed it up best when she said:

- So are we ever going to hear about John's marriage, and how it failed because he's a big giant flaming queer?

...YEAH.

(Also, they touched each other's asses? And, like, wow, John, whose pants are YOU trying to get into? And I mean that literally.)

3) Okay, the last scene's kind of growing on me. Maybe. I mean...David Hewlett is all kinds of awesome. And Carson's hair still bothers me, but that's neither here nor there at this point.

4) Hey, so Teyla - thinking about Carson in the beginning? I hope so. I mean, OW. But still.

5) BY THE WAY. Elizabeth's date? What was his name? HOT. Dude! I hope we see him again, DAYUM.

Anyway...off to actually eat dinner now...

Why do they keep breaking me? Why?

[identity profile] tex.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
I think the quick, barely there mention of John's marriage has everybody baffled. Wow. I just did not see that coming. I was just saying at Yin's that I think John got married because that was the next thing on his list, after getting in the Air Force Academy. And it was a train wreck because he was only present in his usual, detached, untouchable way. He wasn't in love, he just needed to check that off his list.

On the other hand, he looked frigging amazing in those wrinkled up civvies. And the dress blues? Squeeee!

[identity profile] mrsronweasley.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
It's interesting, isn't it? So many possibilities. I imagine they both fucked it up - I think it must have been when he was really young, idealistic, hopeful, and in denial, about a lot of things. It was a total train wreck because he's John and, no matter what, he can't not be...yeah. John. And young! It just adds a whole new dimension to him, and I love that. (Also, yeah, okay, he was totally queer. *g*)

And YES. You can tell Flanigan's not getting any sleep, though. Poor guy. *g* THREE KIDS. Can't be easy. That was probably his first golf game in a month or something. *g*

[identity profile] katrin.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Well, they *did* have that (played for laughs, not really gay) gay kiss that one time. But, yeah. Until the last third or so, this ep was pure fanservice. There was stuff straight out of fanfic, I swear, which = awesome.

Although? It had never occured to me that John might have been married before. Had you? Anyone reading this comment, thoughts? The only times I can think of seeing it in fic have been AUs. Hrm.


(Why no, I really *can't* stop thinking about this ep, why do you ask?)

[identity profile] mrsronweasley.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, duh. Hehe. Of course. But still! It was, like...not serious? Also, not really gay, right? But here, it was just...hi, normal acknowledgement of people not being straight. I just. I love it. I don't know. Heh. FANSERVICE IS RIGHT. (I just so wish John and Rodney had spoken two words to one another. God.0

Okay, the married thing is totally wigging people out, isn't it? I can totally see it, though. Also, I told Sam about it, and he wasn't shocked at all. He had thoughts! Interesting thoughts! Which I will post tomorrow. But it was funny how UNSHOCKED he was.


(OMG, Kat, me neither. I'm dying on the inside, from so many things.)

[identity profile] katrin.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah, not *really* gay because it was Cadman, and then Rodney made that face and -- but, yeah, acknowledging that some people may actually seek the company of their own sex! FTW! (Yeah, I know. But then again, they may have deliberately moved away from that a little because there was a run of v. v. v. shippy eps?)

Oooh, I am excited to hear Sam's thoughts. And, of course, your own.

(ME TOO. So, uh, viewing party at Muskrat? If you don't mind watching me cry. I BLAME BAGPIPES. Sometimes I am very, very Scottish.)

[identity profile] shihadchick.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 10:19 am (UTC)(link)
[replying here so you'll both get it]

See, the married thing? On actually stopping to think about it - and it became clear it was going to be that he had the second he asked Ronon, it was sort of inevitable, right? - it totally makes sense to me because, yeah, like you guys said - checking it off, something he should do, and he would be SO bad at it because of the way he is with (most, non-team) people, and also the EXTREME GAYNESS HELLO. Heh.

Totally off the subject, but *oh God*

[identity profile] bathsweaver.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Liz, have you read [livejournal.com profile] troyswann's A Real Boy yet?

Read it! Read it! AU Sci Fi fusion! Mounties in space!

I just finished it, and I'm kind of flailing here. Oh, Fraser! Oh, Dief! Oh, Ray, my poor broken, achy, happy heart!

::FLAILS::

Re: Totally off the subject, but *oh God*

[identity profile] mrsronweasley.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Heee! I will read! Tomorrow, YAY! :D

You are so cute. ♥ ♥ ♥

Re: Totally off the subject, but *oh God*

[identity profile] bathsweaver.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
AU! So awesome!

Also, we have t-shirts! And new SGA to watch (yes, yes--downloading now)!

Truly, a wonderful day for fandom everywhere.

[identity profile] bathsweaver.livejournal.com 2007-01-19 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
OMG, just watched, and I bounced in my chair when Ronon was all "to a woman? Like, dude. Are the sweaty, shirtless, hands-on training sessions which huge penis extensions and fondling knives and blowing things up not getting through to you?

And then John had his line, and I nearly spat water all over my screen. I mean, seriously, people.
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[personal profile] mad_maudlin 2007-01-22 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry for the uber-late comment, but I just watched the episode. Carson = wish troll. BUT I MISS HIM ANYWAY. ::wibbles::