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mrsronweasley) wrote2007-01-30 09:21 am
mrsronweasley) wrote2007-01-30 09:21 am
work < fun
I was asleep by 8pm last night. I kind of win.
I was exhausted when I got home yesterday, and kept getting more and more tired as time went on. By 7, I was ready to sleep. By 8, I was dead to the world. It was awesome.
Because, see, work doesn't have much to do, but it's still exhausting, because at any random time, there's something going wrong, or people being pissy, and the morale in this group - for reasons that might be explored at a later juncture - is at an all-time low. People are bitching, people are gnashing teeth, and people are planning to leave, myself included. It's all just ridiculous.
So, not to dwell on the bad stuff, I will ask you all questions! So you can, uh, entertain me? *looks extra-inviting*
See, I was thinking about this yesterday (in my half-asleep mode) - in various fandom, I will inevitably have pairings that I love and will never let go of, and pairings that wig me the fuck out, as well as pairings that I'm okay with, on a short-term basis.
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Harry Potter - Remus/Sirius, all the way, forever and ever, arooo. Right? While Remus/Tonks makes me look for the next available bucket, for many, MANY reasons. While other R/S shippers are semi-okay with that outcome, I am so totally very much NOT OKAY WITH IT. So, there is that for HP.
due South - RayK/Fraser. ♥ Ray/Ray wigs me out (it's a personal thing), while I can sort of almost maybe? do F/V/K. Sometimes. When I'm, you know, relaxed, or something. Easily pliable. Maybe slightly intoxicated. I can read well-written F/V and enjoy it, even, knowing the rest of the series is out there on the horizon. Is that mean? I dunno. But yeah. I really like Vecchio, I do! I just. You know. KOWALSKI. So.
Now, take SGA - John/Rodney's my default. I like it. It interests me. They're cute and funny and the whole flyboy/geek thing really, uh, butters my muffin. The Hateful Ship of Doom is Sheppard/Weir, because no. Just no. I mean, when a ship can be called "Jizabeth Schweir", you know you have problems. It's boring, it's predictable, they have no chemistry and oh, yeah, John's gay. So, no-go on that one. (![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
airinshaw, avert your eyes for the rest of this paragraph.) John/Teyla is my ship of hot, as is John/Ronon. 'Cause. HOT. And I realized that I am totally okay with (sometimes) reading Rodney/Teyla, because Rodney getting some from Teyla? Equals HAPPY TIMES in my head. And, finally, I will read OT4 with pleasure. Because it's always an interesting dynamic to me, and as long as everybody gets equal love? I am totally fine with it all. (I don't like people being left out in the cold. It's a thing. I may have issues.)
So. My question is: what about you? Which pairings will never ever leave your heart, even if you may sometimes stray off the beaten path? Which pairings wig you out no matter how hard you try not to let them?
Let's talk love. Because it's Tuesday, and we all need a little love.
I was exhausted when I got home yesterday, and kept getting more and more tired as time went on. By 7, I was ready to sleep. By 8, I was dead to the world. It was awesome.
Because, see, work doesn't have much to do, but it's still exhausting, because at any random time, there's something going wrong, or people being pissy, and the morale in this group - for reasons that might be explored at a later juncture - is at an all-time low. People are bitching, people are gnashing teeth, and people are planning to leave, myself included. It's all just ridiculous.
So, not to dwell on the bad stuff, I will ask you all questions! So you can, uh, entertain me? *looks extra-inviting*
See, I was thinking about this yesterday (in my half-asleep mode) - in various fandom, I will inevitably have pairings that I love and will never let go of, and pairings that wig me the fuck out, as well as pairings that I'm okay with, on a short-term basis.
For instance!
Harry Potter - Remus/Sirius, all the way, forever and ever, arooo. Right? While Remus/Tonks makes me look for the next available bucket, for many, MANY reasons. While other R/S shippers are semi-okay with that outcome, I am so totally very much NOT OKAY WITH IT. So, there is that for HP.
due South - RayK/Fraser. ♥ Ray/Ray wigs me out (it's a personal thing), while I can sort of almost maybe? do F/V/K. Sometimes. When I'm, you know, relaxed, or something. Easily pliable. Maybe slightly intoxicated. I can read well-written F/V and enjoy it, even, knowing the rest of the series is out there on the horizon. Is that mean? I dunno. But yeah. I really like Vecchio, I do! I just. You know. KOWALSKI. So.
Now, take SGA - John/Rodney's my default. I like it. It interests me. They're cute and funny and the whole flyboy/geek thing really, uh, butters my muffin. The Hateful Ship of Doom is Sheppard/Weir, because no. Just no. I mean, when a ship can be called "Jizabeth Schweir", you know you have problems. It's boring, it's predictable, they have no chemistry and oh, yeah, John's gay. So, no-go on that one. (
airinshaw, avert your eyes for the rest of this paragraph.) John/Teyla is my ship of hot, as is John/Ronon. 'Cause. HOT. And I realized that I am totally okay with (sometimes) reading Rodney/Teyla, because Rodney getting some from Teyla? Equals HAPPY TIMES in my head. And, finally, I will read OT4 with pleasure. Because it's always an interesting dynamic to me, and as long as everybody gets equal love? I am totally fine with it all. (I don't like people being left out in the cold. It's a thing. I may have issues.)So. My question is: what about you? Which pairings will never ever leave your heart, even if you may sometimes stray off the beaten path? Which pairings wig you out no matter how hard you try not to let them?
Let's talk love. Because it's Tuesday, and we all need a little love.
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♥
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Awww my kitty is licking her paw and rubbing it on her face!
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It's funny that I don't actually consider "At Swim" to be a fandom, per se - it's more, like...a way of life. *g* But you're right - they are very much an OT3 of mine, and MacEmm - well, he's still the love of life, really. Sadly. *sigh*
(Oh God, which reminds me, if you have the time - I meant to tell you a bunch of ASTB-related...stuff.)
Oh, At Swim.
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SGA: I default to McShep almost as much because of fandom as because of the show. There are tonnes of other pairings that I love, though (Elizabeth/Teyla! Elizabeth/Radek! OT4! Anything with Lorne! Anything with Cadman!) and only a few pairings that I would rather not read: John/Elizabeth, John/Teyla, Ronon/Teyla. Nothing I'd refuse to read, though, unless we're talking SG-1 crossover; I get jarred in a bad way every time a McShep fic mentions Jack/Daniel. (and now that I've gotten to SG-1: Rodney/Sam is made of win!)
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SGA: See, Rodney/Sam I do not like! I have this thing where...I don't like Sam all that much. I don't like that I don't like her, but I...I don't like her. *g* (SG-1 in general has failed to impress me...and I've seen enough of it that I feel it should have. But it didn't.) But Elizabeth/Teyla - REC ME FIC. I really, really want to read that. And Teyla/Cadman just tickles me something silly. *g*
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And the Sopranos had a really unf. scene with Ralphie/Janice that no one who has seen that episode is likely to forget. But I hate both of their characters, so I kind of love them together. Except for the part where I hate it. So that's a love/hate thing (mostly hate).
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Okay. Pairings.
Due South - F/K forever!!! Ray/Ray does not butter my muffin. F/K/V has been known to work for me, but I don't actually believe it in the same way I do F/K. And F/V? They definitely without a doubt love each other. That's canon. I just. I prefer to see their love as philia rather than eros.
Sentinel - Is there any other pairing possible besides Jim/Blair? If so, please do not tell me because I do not want to know.
Ghosts of Fandoms Past...
Buffy - Buffy/Riley all the way. Buffy/Angel, too. I loved Willow/Oz. Hehe, het!! Graham/Xander, which has no canonical basis whatsoever, works for me, for some reason. And Willow/Tara is never bad. Buffy/Giles makes me shudder because of the parental overtones of Giles towards Buffy. Even in the later seasons when they were more equal, it just seemed pedophilic and incestuous to me. And those are probably two of the only lines I have left.
Popslash. Well. I have embraced my shame. Chris/Lance makes me squee. So does Joey/Chris. And I wouldn't say no to some JC/Lance. I must admit the whole thing is much weirder knowing Lance is actually gay, instead of just suspecting it. It makes it less fictional, and I'm not sure how comfortable I am with that (although Hugh/Callum makes me so fucking happy, and I don't think it's much of stretch to think they could have sexed it up at some point). Consistent I am not. But back to popslash. I can't really read any Justin pairing, I think because he was so fricking underage when I got into fandom. Wait, two more lines? Why, yes, that appears to be so. Who knew?
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Yeah, we're pretty much MFEO in dS, as well. *clutches you*
Buffy/Riley never did much for me (sorry!) but I love and adore Willow/Oz. Now that I don't love gay Willow and Tara is adorable, but Willow and Oz in high school was just adorable. Oh my God, I love them. It broke my heart when things ended. *sigh* Giles/Buffy is wrong. This is true. Then again, I kind of wanted to read Giles/Angel there for one (feverish, I grant you) moment, so I have no moral highground to stand on. At ALL. But we seem to have the same lines, anyway. *g*
Can't say much for popslash, but Hugh/Callum is just freakin' asking for it. \o/
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Ds: F/K OTP. Dief/doughnuts. Welsh/Frannie is sweet*. Threesomes are awesome**. K/V makes me sad***
*As long as it's not explicit.
**Always. This is a constant. Though I can't really see it happening from the canon? I like people showing me how it could happen.
***As someone more meta than me said, K/V must means Ray and Fraser didn't have a happy ending, even though Ray was head-over-heels no question for Fraser, and Fraser loved Ray, and --SNIFF--
SGA: McShep OTP. OT4 OTP. Ronon/anyone but Teyla^. Telya/anyone but Ronon^. Teyla/Rodney sekkrit Pegasus het OTP. Weir with Teyla, Ronon, or Zelenka. Zelenka needs more play. Emphatic no to John/anyone female, but especially Elizabeth and Teyla, and that's 1/2 the mentioned female cast and 2/2 the recurring female cast right there.
^Weirdly, Teyla and Ronon cancel each other out for me. I dunno; they're each hot like burning with anyone else, but together? They've got this bigger sister/little brother vibe I love too much to mess up with sex.
SPN: Sam/Dean ALL THE WAY. I'll break for Ellen/any Winchester, because she is HOT LEIK WHOA; though I refuse to read John/Sam or Dean. Because there, that's my line, and I am not crossing it. Sekkrit het OTP: Dean/Dana.
HP: Eh, it was a while ago, before Remus and Sirius were introduced in any major way. Harry/Draco, though I'll read Draco/just about anyone.
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\o/ LOVE! K/V makes me sad, too. Wah.
I love how slutty everybody is about SGA. It's just such a shippy, slutty show! I love that. I can see what you mean by Ronon/Teyla canceling each other out. I just want to see them fighting a lot. 'Cause. It's HOT.
Mmmm...stickfightin' Teyla... Excuse me... *runs off*
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I can't do Ray/Ray at all (as, uh, I have mentioned perhaps on many many many previous occasions). Oh, and one of the reasons I totally can't deal with SGA fandom is because my "I can't see it at all but you guys have fun" feeling towards Sheppard/McKay has over the past two years turned into "HATE HATE HATE WITH A BURNING IRRATIONAL PASSION HATE." I have no explanation for that. Also, I sekritly ship Rodney/Elizabeth, and have EQUALLY no explanation for THAT.
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work = omgsoboring.
Likewise, in SG-1, even though in a way I believe in Sam/Jack, because it's kind of canon, I cannot read Sam/Jack. It leaves Daniel out too much and makes me too sad. Conversely when I was really into the show I often couldn't read Jack/Daniel, either, because I couldn't get over the inevitability of Sam/Jack. So, you know, yay OT3!
In Numb3rs, I'm just eeeeeeasy.
In Bones, I have a massive OTP (Booth/Brennan) but I am weirdly entirely okay with them sleeping with other people, whether on the show or in fic, because I am just. that. confident. that they are OTP and will work out somehow. Which is probably just insane in a different way.
Re: work = omgsoboring.
OT3 yay, indeed. Like, I could never do that in RL, but in fic? I am so totally for it. Okay, for the most part. Sometimes. When the constellations are in the right sort of alignment?.. Okay, when it's not V/K/F. *g*
but I am weirdly entirely okay with them sleeping with other people, whether on the show or in fic, because I am just. that. confident. that they are OTP and will work out somehow.
You know what? That is a very healthy attitude. You know...for a shipper. :D
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*sporfle*
Which pairings will never ever leave your heart, even if you may sometimes stray off the beaten path? Which pairings wig you out no matter how hard you try not to let them?
Hm, interesting. A random sampling from among my fandoms:
A-Team
OTP: Face/Murdock. There's no other.
Of the scarybadwrong: Hannibal/BA, maybe because both of those characters read really straight, maybe because they did such a crap job of characterizing BA as anything but a cartoon. Just. No.
due South
OTP: Fraser/Kowalski, though I'll occasionally stray with Ray/Ray (and I'm SAD the whole time, but it works, god, it works in a fucked up way).
Of the scarybadwrong: Uh, Turnbull/anybody? Maybe that's just since the Torri Spelling thing. *shudder*
SGA
OTP: John/Rodney (duh), and I can't really see them with anyone else, though I have read other pairings with them by good authors. Because Teyla with a strap-on? I can so see John being the bottom in that relationship.
Of the scarybadwrong: Uh, yeah, I have to admit I can't see John/Elizabeth, or John/anyone with a vagina, to be honest (unless it's genderfucked Rodney). And I'm surprisingly resistant to OT4 team fic - it's just not one of my things. But I can put together Elizabeth with just about anyone else - Ronon, Radek, Lorne, Caldwell, Teyla - and I've written more different pairings in this fandom than in any other (four and counting). I can see Ronon/Teyla, Beckett/Teyla, etc., ad nauseum. It's a flexible fandom.
Harry Potter
OTP: I got into this fandom while I was still slowly converting to slash, and so I started out in Snape/Hermione and only got into Snape/Harry after that. Snape is kind of the little black dress of fandom, but I don't easily see him with other characters, even Draco.
Of the scarybadwrong: Hagrid/anybody. It scares me. And Weasleycest. Can't go there.
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...are you implying that you've read this one before? Because if you have, I hope you intend to imply some links.
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I was actually really surprised to find out I had an OTP (Sam & Gene in Life on Mars), and even that doesn't mean I won't ship those characters with others, it just means that in my heart of hearts they will always be together and never part - even if their friendship is just friendship.
Mostly, I gen.
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But I love that people come into fandom for all sorts of reasons, and with all sorts of expectations. Such a diverse and cool environment! Ah, fandom. ♥
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due South: F/K all the way. I can't read Ray/Ray at all. It just doesn't work for me. F/K/V Nope. It's not that I don't like threesomes. I can't see those boys managing to share like that. RayK & Fraser in particular. I think they'd be too focused on their love object to make room for another. F/V: I don't see that either. I will read F/Smithbauer set before the series canon (or during The Blue Line). I'll read RayK/Stella or RayV/Stella.
Star Wars: The Phantom Menace: That can only mean Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan to me. I won't read them slashed with others unless it ends up as Q/O. And never ever slashed with Maul. That's just wrong. *g*
Starsky & Hutch: Okay not much choice here really. S/H are so in love. I don't ever want to read Dobie slash. *g*
Highlander: Mainly Duncan/Methos. I occasionally ventured off my OTP if Methos were involved and the fic was interesting. Oh, for threesomes, Duncan/Methos/Amanda. HOT.
The A-Team: Face/Murdock is my default but I can be persuaded to read Murdock/Hannibal or *gasp* het: Murdock/Amy, Murdock/Kelly.
Tour of Duty: Zeke/Myron. That's the OTP there for me. I occasionally will read Doc Hoc/Purcell. I'm in the minority with not liking Myron/McKay but I never liked McKay as character.
Nightrunner Books: It's Alec/Seregil. But they're a canon couple.
Do I need to add the OTPs of Duck/Dan and Joe/Billy? No, I didn't think so. *g*
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Aaaaaaaaaaand as for the rest, I do not know them, but the names amuse me! :D
Duck/Dan and Billy/Joe. Is there ANY other way? *g*
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However, before they end up together Fraser could fool a around with Stella. Or break Ray Vecchios heart. Or Victoria could come back and seduce RayK... I'd even like to read a good (!!!) Fraser/Thatcher-story (I strongly suspect that the dislike for this pairings stems mainly from all the crap that has been written around this pairing. S1/2-Thatcher is hot! And definitely needs to get laid. And definitely has her eyes on him.
I'm just sayin')
So, in dS I'll read pretty much everything. But in conclusion: F/K
I'm not reading much HP, but if I do it's Draco/anyone. Mean!Draco/Ginny is awesome! Draco/Harry is... okay, a little lame, but hot. Draco/Snape is stellar.
In S&A I go for the canon-couple. (But I'd seal a Faustian Pact for some hot Geoffrey/Richard-porn. Or Ellen/Geoffrey/Barbara. Anyone?) I enjoyed Jack/Geoffrey (and the stories I've read even made them plausible!!!), but I personally couldn't slash them.
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Heee! I love that a lot. That's pretty much how I see them, too. *g* But I have a really, really hard time seeing Fraser/Stella unless written really well, and Fraser/Thatcher yes, before S3, but it's kind of a really fucked-up relationship. (A la canon!)
But in conclusion? Ben/Kowalski. *g*
I never really shipped the HP kids all that much, and didn't like Draco at all, so...yeah, it's R/S all the way for me. *g*
And yes, for the canon-couples of S&A. I can't really see it any other way. (And I NEVER liked the Richard/Anna stuff, so I was SO relieved at the outcome, I can't even tell you. Anna is just too good for him.)
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hp remus/sirius is the one true pairing. of all time. ALL TIME. and i don't care if it has become the angsty pairing of doom, i will always believe. ahem. and i am so completely with you on remus/tonks. thing is, it might have been acceptable in some comfort-for-remus sort of way if jkr had not the craptasticest of craptastic jobs writing it. that part of the last book is largely responsible for my falling out of hp fandom in the last year.
i also bashfully admit that harry/draco is firmly lodged in my heart. though harry is my fandom slut and i could pair him with ron, neville, snape, etc. for draco, however, there is only harry. oh! and also neville/theodore nott (longnottom, if you will) is a best beloved pairing thanks to
dScan you guess? f/k time infinity. i can handle some ray/ray, but i can only conceive of a world in which they're together because what they really wanted first didn't pan out. and the thought of f/k not panning out... WAH! so i have a hard time. f/v just kind of bores me though i love vecchio. and f/k/v... i just can't find emotional satisfaction in an ot3. not my thing.
sgamckay/sheppard. i'm so original. i also like mckay/zelenka. and especially ronon/zelenka. mmm. cannot handle anything with elizabeth. i just don't like her enough. she is badly written and it makes me sad but there it is.
bsglaura roslin/me
beyond these fandoms, i'm going a bit far back in history but... lotrips is like... you can't go wrong. unless it includes sean astin. then NO.
in buffy i shipped canon, more or less. with some xandrew hopes.
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YES to Remus/Sirius. \o/ I will always, always, always believe in them.
thing is, it might have been acceptable in some comfort-for-remus sort of way if jkr had not the craptasticest of craptastic jobs writing it. that part of the last book is largely responsible for my falling out of hp fandom in the last year.
Took the words right out of my mouth. Seriously. I threw the book across the balcony when I got to that part. It was nauseating. It was such a fucking slap in the face, too, and so fucking poorly written, I have no words for it. After that, it was all over, really. I'm not even excited for book seven coming out!
f/k time infinity.
\o/ YES! The thought of those two not working out hurts me down to the soul. (Yes, I am sad person.) So, yeah. F/K. *happy sigh*
Elizabeth makes me sad, too. There's potential there that never gets realized, and also, the idea of her and Sheppard makes me want to vomit. So! Yeah.
laura roslin/me
Hehe. You win!
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Major characters, though - if it's done well, I'll read pretty much any pairing, because a good writer can make me believe in it, can give me plausible reasons for Character A and Character B to sex it up.
The thing is, though, 'done well' is a pretty major (and, yes, very subjective) caveat, for me, because there are certain relationships that I can only really see happening in a limited number of ways. For example, John/Elizabeth? would be drunk and desperate, with both of them thinking of other people and neither of them remotely interested in long-term happy-fluffy-bunnies shacking up. Or possibly it would involve an apolcalypse? but again with the thinking of other people. You could maybe make a compelling case for alien sex drugs (although you'd have to handwave why they were sexing each other instead of, you know, people they're actually attracted to) - but that would be at least as much about the twistychest awkward afterwards as it would be about the hot sex.
(...and I don't want to write the story where Elizabeth sexes John up while under the influence of alien sex drugs and it makes everything HORRIBLE and AWKARD and WEIRD)
Does that make any sense? I didn't so much sleep last night, so I'm not sure - possibly I shall come back here after my nap and try again.
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Hehe, you whore! :D
I don't go in for minor characters, either - I mean, it's just not all that interesting to me. But I do have my OTPs, and hard as I might, I have a nearly impossible time breaking them. And if I'm forced to? I work around it. *coughRayK/Maggiecough*
For example, John/Elizabeth? would be drunk and desperate, with both of them thinking of other people and neither of them remotely interested in long-term happy-fluffy-bunnies shacking up.
That is the ONLY way I can accept that pairing. Wow. You're right. I wouldn't want to read/see it, but yes, that is the ONLY way.
...and I don't want to write the story where Elizabeth sexes John up while under the influence of alien sex drugs and it makes everything HORRIBLE and AWKARD and WEIRD
OMG, ewwww, you're right. Bad, bad - verybadwrong.
It makes perfect sense, dude. *g*
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F/K for always and forever. I can't do Ray/Ray, I don't do F/V/K and I can't do F/V. It's not that it's poorly written 'cause it's not at all. I just don't enjoy it. It makes me sad for F/K.
I'm a biiiiig Remus/Sirius shipper, too. I don't like anything messing with that pairing either.
But SGA? Ronon/Radek is probably my big one for some odd reason. But also Ronon/Sheppard, Ronon/Rodney, Ronon/Teyla, Sheppard/McKay, Sheppard/Teyla, Rodney/Radek.
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Me too! 'Cause...team! Radek! Yay!
It makes me sad for F/K.
Yes, yes, yes. Yes.
I'm a biiiiig Remus/Sirius shipper, too. I don't like anything messing with that pairing either.
YAY! Oh, that makes me ecstatically happy, actually. Remus/Sirius - my first true OTP. God, I love them so much.
I love your total whorishness in SGA, and pretty much share it!
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X-Men - Emma Frost/Kitty Pryde. So wrong it's hot.
Pirates of the Carribbean - Jack Sparrow/Black Pearl. I'm sorry, I meant to say Captain Jack Sparrow/Black Pearl.
House - House/Vicodin. Self-explanatory, I think.
Veronica Mars - Veronica/Lily. Well, duh.
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X-Men - Ohhh, that is...hot. You sick fuck. *g*
PotC - NICE! I approve.
House - Oh YES.
VM - Mmmmph. Yeah.
:D
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I tried to be. I tried so hard to be. I even started a community for people who were both Remus/Sirius and Remus/Tonks shippers, but I had to close it because the more I thought about it, the more I thought Remus/Tonks was HORRIBLY executed and likely to like Remus miserable. Plus it makes me think of Remus/Ashley Wilkes comparisons, and that is so not good.
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Yeah, I just couldn't do it. It totally pushed me away from canon, because if canon could commit that kind of travesty? I didn't want to be anywhere near it. Ugh. I couldn't even bring myself to try, it was so bad. *sigh* Why must it be so? SADNESS.
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Only not really. I don't have a SGA OTP yet. Unless an allsome would count. How awesome wouldn't that be? One giant orgy! I love them ALL. (But I NEED RONON NAKED NOW OMG.) Rodney/John does of course seem awfully cute. I think I need fic to see the hot. And Liz, that responsibility is ALL YOURS. And Katie's. Just so you know.
HP loves: Ron/Hermione and Sirius/Remus. Duh. HP hates: Harry/Hermione. Other than that, I don't really care. But. I noticed people here seem to prefer Harry/Draco. WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?! ;) I can't stand Harry/Draco, even if I'd prefer it to H/Hr. If Draco needs to be with anyone other than, say, Pansy - it's RON. Or Ginny, if we're talking RfA.
Firefly: I like Mal/Inara, I can't bring myself to care much about Simon/Kaylee, I love me some hot Jayne/anyone, especially Mal.
What else do I like? I don't know. I can't think of anything else I have read fic for. At least, not that I've conciously sought out certain pairings to read. Hmm...
WHY is it taking AGES to download SGA s03e04?!?!? GAAAAAAAH.
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It really is, isn't it? It just hit me again. Ow.
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:D
*cradles J and R and protects them from you trying to make them do anything with anyone else*
Ok - I'll give you this...I can see where people get John/Ronon from, but even if they buck like funnies, it leaves my Rodney out in the cold. So no. And John/Teyla is the only acceptable if-John's-straight pairing (because Teyla = rock) but dude, John's gay. And if necessary, I'll allow Rodney with anyone-but-Zelenka. But of course even if he's with anyone else it's because he thinks he can't get John. The End
*snuggles you*
*Flashes you again and runs off cackling*
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(Okay, plus, I just wanted to pass comment on the flashing, too. *griiiiiiin*)
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due South: F/K, always and forever. I love either of the Rays with Stella because that doesn't break my OTP. I can read either RayK or Fraser with other people before they meet in canon, but after that I can only read them together. This is the fandom and pairing where I need them together, and I need them to have a happy ending. I can't handle what it does to me otherwise. That's why I'll never read "End of the Road"; I won't risk it shattering my OTP like it's done for some other people.
I love Vecchio but I see him as completely straight. I know he loves Fraser with all his great big heart, but I see it as friendship, not sexual or romantic. I crave Vecchio het! I've been known to read Ray/Ray on rare occasions, but it hurts me, even when it's good. Especially when it's good.
I can't read F/K/V at all, ever. I've had deeply traumatic personal experience with threesome relationships and threesome sex, and I bring that history into my reading, and it's a very rare threesome that works for me in fic. I can't see this one as anything but horribly damaging to everyone involved.
I don't ever want to read about Turnbull having sex, regardless of who it's with. Not ever.
Buffy: I'm whorish here; I don't have an OTP. I'm all about Giles, and I will read him with nearly anyone. For some reason, I don't like Giles/Anya, in spite of the fact that there's canon support for it. And Giles/Andrew is just... no. But pair Giles with Ethan or Wesley or Spike or Buffy (if well written), and I'm a happy fangirl.
Stargate SG-1: Most of my reading has been Jack/Daniel, but I have equal love for the Sam/Jack/Daniel OT3. This is the one threesome that absolutely works for me, because they all three already love each other more than their own lives, and none of them has anything to speak of outside of their work and the team. I love Sam a lot, and I will read her with Daniel or occasionally with Jack, in the hands of a writer I trust.
Stargate Atlantis: I'm a John/Rodney girl. It's pretty much all I read. I'm going to buck the tide here and confess that I have read some John/Elizabeth that I've really liked (
NCIS: I can read most of the characters with nearly any of the others, but I can only read Gibbs paired with Tony. I'm not interested in Ducky shipfic of any variety. McGee/Abby is adorable.
Sports Night: Dan/Casey. Another forever OTP.
And then there are the gimmes like Duck/Dan and Joe/Billy (who can fuck anybody they like and it won't bother me, because they'll always belong to each other).
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And I thought I was the only person in dS fnadom not to have read that. *stands in F/K OTP solidarity with Mal*
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I am an OTPer forever and ever and can't deal with my favorite pairings being broken up pretty much at all. The only exception to this rule is popslash, because, honestly, I don't really believe in those characters as people. And even then, I can't read another pairing for about 24 hours after reading a really convincing fic.
Hi, Liz! How are you? I feel like I haven't talked to you in a v. long time.
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OH MY GOD, KAL, I LOVE YOU. YES. That is what truly and finally PISSED ME THE FUCK OFF. It was SUCH a slap in the face. Just...she just stepped right on up and said, "LOOK! HE IS STRAIGHT!" and did the worst thing she could have done, which was take Remus's and Tonks's dignities and actual PERSONALITIES (god, how fucking queer were they? very fucking queer!) and flush them down the toilet. That whole scene left a horrible taste in my mouth, and put me off canon for a good, long time. UGH.
Hee! I have a hard time with breaking OTPs myself. I mean, you know. It's hard! They love each other, dammit!
Hiiiiiiiiiii! I know! This is not good! We must talk more! :D
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dS: I'd LOVE to say F/K all the way baby, but I'll read just about anything in here. I actually came into the fandom by accident and started out reading F/V cause that's what I remembered from the show (RayK came about the fall of my freshman year in college and I was sorta pre-occupied with other things), then one day I came upon F/K and it was lurve at first sight. Ever since, they are the OTP of my heart. That's not to say I won't read or love F/K/V or K/Turbull or Stella with either Ray. I also like V/K despite the heartache it gives me knowing F/K didn't work out *sniff*
Hercules:TLJ- Herc/Iolaus. I mean, when one of them lets himself get BEAT TO DEATH (Iolaus), just to protect the whereabouts of the other, how can you not ship them? Not to mention one of the slashiest canon moments ever, discounting MOTB and the kiss-In the third movie, there is this scene where they’re sitting in Herc’s house (where his wife and kids are in the other room) and Iolaus suggestively rubs his cup over his lower lip while they’re teasing each other. Then they go out to the barn and wrestle half-naked. Umm, yeah, they’re doing each other, no doubt about it. Add in the fact that they argue like an old married couple and that despite that, they actually have this deep abiding love, respect and trust in each other and yeah, I love them. LOTS. Oddly enough, I have this major thing for Herc/Iolaus/Deianeira (Herc’s first wife). I buy that threesome more than F/K/V, actually.
Andromeda: Harper/ Tyr. I started out Harper/Dylan, but as the seasons went on I started liking Dylan less and less and finally saw the light of putting the Earther with the Nietzhchen. Take one snarky, brillant engineer/scientist who happens to have a completely psychotic and sadistic side to him and put him with a man who comes from a species that is known as homo invictus, but who himself lost his family, heck his whole WOLRD, when he was a teenager. Sit back and watch the sparks fly. NEVER EVER Rev/anyone. It’s just too creepy and wrong.
I don’t need to add Joe/Billy or Hugh/Callum, right? I mean, those are self-explantory.
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I know NOTHING about Hercules, unfortunately! But holy crap, that DOES sound just...overly gay! *g*
Ditto for Andromeda! Know nothing, but still, yay for snarky brilliant engineer/scientists. *g*
And yes. The other two are entirely self-explanatory. And self-shipping, too! *g*
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And, well, I figure this'll entertain you for tomorrow even though it's waytoolate for 'today'?
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Soooooo, me and fandoms.
Star Wars: Han/Leia, obviously, because I am a Traditionalist. I am theoretically in favour of slash but, um, really don't need to think about Luke having sex with anyone (except Mara Jade, and that mostly in the PG13 sense of "aw, it's cute, and I don't want details") so mostly I swing Han/OMC in that case. And Qui/Obi for the Unholy Trinity of New Crap. Ahem. :D Extended universe I am ALL about the pilot slash (reasons why I love John Sheppard echo here a LOT), especially Face/Phanan, Wedge/Tycho and Wes/Hobbie. Wes/Wedge is also a big yay and was the first slash I ever officially wrote. (Um, Wes is one of the dudes flying the snow speeders in Empire Strikes Back, and Wedge is the guy who survived both Death Stars, in case you didn't know. Hi, I am a secondary character WHORE.)
Harry Potter - yeah, Remus/Sirius all the way. HARRY HAS TWO GODFATHERS. And pretty much what squicks me here is the uneven power things - I don't go for Snape/student, it kinda squicks me, but doesn't bother me when other people do. My lines are totally wobbly and make no sense.
U2 - I used to OTP Adam/Larry like crazy and Bono/Edge was cute and easy to see but pretty much McShep-like in its stature initially, so it didn't use to do much for me, but these days, on the rare occasions I think/read in that arena? I think Adam/Edge is my OTP now. Just... gotta have the Adam. Mmm. Bassist. :D
due South - is the closest I get to OTP. I can kind of read K/V? Sometimes? But mostly I read and fixate on F/K because LOVE and I need them to be happy. So like Mal, I haven't read End of the Road either because I FEAR it, and while I will read F/K/V on occasion so far it doesn't grab me quite so much. It's more a case of me finding it convincing at the time I'm reading it, and then after I'm done I snap right back to F/K OTP and little woobie hearts all around them.
Stargate SG1 and SGA - ...okay, so this? Is where I get slutty. I read anything here, mostly. I think my heart mostly belongs to John/Rodney, but I will happily read them in most permutations with Teyla, Ronon, Zelenka, Lorne, Cadman, the list goes on. A lot. And I have a ridiculous soft-spot for Sam/Rodney, though, like Kat, it's more of a "it would be hot and TOTALLY NOT WORK LONG TERM" thing (and also, babe? you're not so keen on Sam? I am even more thankful that you read that fic for me, now, cos, seriously. You so didn't need to, given.), and I like Sam/Jack (unlike, it seems, half of slashdom), and I also (Kat! avert your eyes!) like Daniel/Jack and Daniel/Jack/Sam is a very big yay, and I will even stretch to well-written (but it has to be super well-written, and also, like Sam/Rodney, have no future most of the time) John/Elizabeth. Hi, I have no lines here. Well, except for Carson/John, which for some reason makes me run screaming, but is entirely irrational.
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Hiiiiiiiiii, honey! *still snuggling you*
I love that you were so into SW. You big giant dork, you! ♥ ♥ ♥ Luke having sex = traumatized Liz. So, no. *g* Han? Yes, please, with a cherry on top. Or Leia! :D Those two were totally awesome. I do love them.
HARRY HAS TWO GODFATHERS.
OMG HE SO DOES. *flails* Come ON, ANY IDIOT could see those two were in deep, deep, passionate puppy love. Srsly. *kicks JKR a bit for being...well, anyway* *siiiiigh* There was a time I was into Snape/Harry. But then it went away. *g*
Heh heh heh. U2. Heh heh heh.
dS - I totally recommend not reading EotR! :D F/K for the fucking WIN, dude - they are just LOVE. They ARE love. God. I love them so much. *sigh*
And SGA brings out the slutty in EVERYONE. I LOVE IT! It wins at sluttiness! 'Cause there is so much hotness, and so many permutations, dammit! The shippiness is ENDLESS. (But, dude, WHERE did John/Carson come from, and WHY? Can it crawl back into its swamp and stay there forever? *cries* Though, I guess, we don't have to worry all that much about it anymore. *is mean*)
...hiiiiiiii! ♥ ♥ ♥
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